Shanghai
Top university girl:
“I want to marry an American”
Jiaotong undergrad blogs about her distaste for Chinese
men and desire to marry an American or European (even a
Japanese or Korean) - stirring a hornet's nest. ChinaSMACK.
Nov 8, 2008
(Littlespeck
- The following blog reproduced from a website
allegedly written by a student from one of Shanghai's top
universities, and the public responses to it.
{It
could have been written many months ago, but revived on
the Internet, still a timely subject.
(If
it is genuine, the sentiments reflect a bit of today’s
materialistic China and the uncertainties of at least a
small segment of its educated generation about itself and
the world at large.)
A
Shanghai Jiaotong University
female’s views on marriage
I am a female student of Shanghai Jiaotong University. It’s
my first time writing a post. Please don’t laugh at
my bad writing.
Everyone has an ideal in life. Some wants to become a hero,
some wants to become rich, some other desires to become
a leader. So what about me? My greatest wish in life is
to marry a Western1 man.
Some might say I am very vulgar, or even a turncoat, but
I am a very traditional girl. To me, the most important
thing in life is marriage.
There is a very trendy saying currently, that studying well
is not as good as marrying well. Marrying the right man
is more important than anything else.
Some might ask, “Are there not enough good men in
China?” Sorry, I have not considered before. As for
the reason, don’t be impatient. Sofa, stool, the floor,
take your pick, and listen to this girl’s reasons
one by one.
I.
China does not have any men suitable for me.
I am
a very distinct/outstanding girl. In terms of academics,
I am studying at a famous university, have an excellent
academic record, and I am not one who wears thick glasses
or sticks her head into books like a high-IQ geek. I have
an excellent figure, an amazing look and a cultivated style
of conversation. I am the leader of the football [soccer]
cheerleading team. I took part in the local beauty pageants
many times. I also have an interest for music, dance and
art. Additionally, I often write some gossips for the newspaper.
In summary, I am an excellent girl in every aspect. But
what kind of man should I marry? There are lots of boys
who are pursuing me, and most of my friends have boyfriends
as well.
But
when they graduate, they either break up, or they start
talking about marriage, about family matters and where to
settle down. They talk so seriously about everything, expect
for love which is the most important thing in a marriage.
I am very passionate about my life, I wish to have both
a excellent materialist and spiritual life. Sorry that I
can’t find that on a Chinese man. Marry a schoolmate,
eventually become a white collar in a company? Can that
afford a house?
I want
to have a huge living room, big enough to be like a small
salon. I could be together with my friends talking about
anything under the sun, savoring high quality wine. Even
the bathroom must be big enough to fit in a large bathtub,
for two people, so I can put on some gentle music and spend
a romantic night with my beloved husband.
Also,
the guy I marry must at least have enough money to buy a
car, right? Or am I supposed to go to work by bus everyday?
It is like in a freezer in winter, and in a microwave in
summer, and within a few years a beautiful young girl will
become a dark-skinned granny. Besides, are you guys really
willing to let a white-collar beauty like me be pushed around
by those dirty migrant workers?
China
definitely does not lack rich men, but have a look at what
kind of people they are. How many of them succeeded due
to their own effort, ability or honesty? If they are not
brick-moving labour contractors, then they are coal-digging
boss from Shanxi, or they are corrupt. They are neither
civilised, nor do they have a good bearing. How am I supposed
to converse with them? To be honest, they will regard it
as art if you are able to hum a few lines of pop music.
When
they have money, they will go out eating, drinking, visiting
prostitutes, or gambling. Just trying to live a peaceful
life would be difficult. There are already people coming
to the university to pursue me, extending their arms to
give me business cards showing that they are some CEO, chairmen
of the board, high-ranking bureaucrats, each of them wealthier
and more arrogant than the other.
Some
even directly suggest me to be their concubine. Oh my God!
I may not be an exceptionally beautiful woman, but I am
at least a young and beautiful girl, who worked very hard
for years to get into a prestigious university, and I can
only be a mistress?!
II.
Western countries have better living conditions.
Even
if a rich single guy, outstanding, elegant, and falls in
love with me, hmph hmph, this girl [referring to self] still
will not really want to marry him. To be blunt, I just want
to marry into the West. The Western world I have seen in
television and movies is simply like heaven: clean streets,
elegant buildings, pure air. Regardless whether bustling
cities or quiet villages, everything seems to be so peaceful
and harmonious. Regardless their academic background, everyone
is very polite.
Based
on this MM’s [my] abilities, I could of course be
a woman who lives in a villa, but so what? Even if we can
afford a villa, can we buy clean air? Isn’t there
dirt and dust everywhere in this country? The rural areas
are better, but I don’t want to go there. Wouldn’t
it be weird, if while I am sun-bathing in a bikini at my
swimming pool a bunch of farmers outside the fence carrying
baskets of dung stare at me? Tibet indeed has very pure
air, but please, this girl is afraid of high attitude sickness.
I especially
dislike the current living environment. Every home has anti-theft
doors, and despite having lived in the same building for
years, everyone is awkward every time they meet each other.
Many people can’t even be bothered to bring their
garbage downstairs, piling it up in front of the doors in
the summer stinking.
Sometimes
I even wonder whether I am not living together with a bunch
of cavemen. Rice has poison, milk powder will result in
big heads, pork is from floods, oil is from the ditches,
just thinking about it makes me terrified.
Sorry,
you want me to love you, give me a reason first? Don’t
have any? Start loving foreign countries. The American “home
town” [sic], France’s vinyards, Spanish coastal
towns, British medieval villages, it could be any of those.
One of my schoolmates went to study abroad in Canada, and
brought his/her father there for half a year. and when he
came back he would whine: “Ai, that [Canada] is really
a place fit for people to live.” Don’t give
me any excuses, if you want my love, you have to give me
a reason, right?
The
costs of living in China is too high. We spend like Americans
and earn like Africans. My parents worked hard to send me
to university, so I should repay them and take care of them
right? Even I become a high-ranking white-collar, would
the salary really be that high? My parents are getting old.
If they become ill and hospitalised, what can I do about
the excessively expensive medical bills? Western countries
have universal health care. Especially the job market in
China, there is nothing to be praised. Each time I see the
over-crowded job fairs, I almost get a heart attack. Dear
me! The job fairs are rather like WW2 Omaha Beach (Normandy
on D-Day). I am a delicate girl, how can I squeeze through
these smelly guys?
As a
modern woman, the first task in life is to survive, study
and get into university, find a job, save money for a house,
and save money for retirement. Which one of these does not
require slaving away? Isn’t it tiring? If my fellow
schoolgirls did not become dark-skinned grannies after graduating,
they found a rich person to marry, and allow their husbands
to go out eating, drinking, visiting prostitutes, and gambling,
pretending they do not know, why suffer?
III.
Western boys are all very excellent.
Having
said this much, that the environment is good, material things
are good, this third point is what I value the most: I simply
like Western men. Ever since I was small, I liked watching
Western movies, such as Roman Holiday” or “Gone
with the Wind,” and I liked watching the Westerners
in the movies, their faces are all so sharp and distinctive,
especially their charming coloured eyes, their straight
pronounced noses, their tight smooth lips.
Moreover,
the majority of Westerners are tall, have strong and handsome
physiques, and always so sexy. Then I look at the Chinese
guys around me: Ignoring the small eyes, they have lumpy
noses, thick lips, and if their skin is tanned a bit, they
look remarkably like Africans. Those who have been educated
almost all look malnourished, making me worried whether
they can protect me or not. Occasionally, there is a muscular
man, but despite having grown a head, they did not grow
a brain.
Many
college guys are pursuing me, and other guys in society
also often ask me out on dates, but there are not many I
like. Each of them either look like a soy sprout, or like
Ultraman [character from a Japanese TV show], each of them
unkempt, and at minimum each of them do not pay attention
to their own image. Many of the guys spit in public, I particularly
dislike people who do this. Only little children and animals
defecate and urinate everywhere, and spitting in public
is not much better than defecating and urinating in public,
so at most they count only as half-civilised.
The
majority of Western men carry themselves elegantly and well,
because they received good education from when they were
small. In our city there are McDonald’s and KFC restaurants,
and I often go there with friends to eat. All the Western
men in the restaurants seem to have good upbringing, opening
doors for others to enter first. Chinese guys, the moment
the door opens, they rush towards the counter, often colliding
with people exiting, as if they were the reincarnation of
someone who starved to death in their last life. The Westerners1
who enter all stand in line, Chinese men rush up in a crowd,
surrounding the counter shouting their orders. as if they
haven’t eaten any food in a long time. And without
being ashamed, they throw their trash wherever after eating,
but those Westerners would fold up the waste paper in their
trays, making it convenient to dispose, and what they haven’t
finished, they throw go dispose of in the wastebins by themselves.
The two are simply are not the same level of people.
Furthermore,
some Chinese men lack a sense of independence, only knowing
how to revolve around girls, living like a super nanny.
I feel they don’t have a self, sticking their thoughts
on girls all day. Getting on the bus, they scramble for
a seat, then busy themselves trying to give it to a girl,
not caring about the elderly or children beside them, that
I am embarrassed to sit down. This kind of men I also look
down upon, revolving around their girlfriends before marriage,
revolving around their wives after marriage, revolving around
their bosses at work, and revolving around the kitchen after
work. No thoughts, no temper, my god, I would be afraid
of the son I have with this man being like his father, a
model citizen so obviously cultivated by an authoritarian
country. What girl does not like a man with personality
and courage?
Western
men were all raised in an environment of independence. They
have independent thinking, not like Chinese men, who are
parrots. Take my schoolmates for example. When the government
talks about Japan and China’s good bilateral relationships,
they like Japan. When the government promotes nationalism,
they shout about attacking Japan. Each and every one of
them are brainless, played like monkeys by others, yet still
thinking themselves to be high and mighty. The whole lot
of them a bunch of “pig headed men.”
There
are some things I cannot say in real life, so I can only
say them online.
--
In summary, I simply want to marry a Westerner, at best
an American, but European is not bad either. As for criteria…I
am not very demanding, it is no big deal even if his education
is lower than mine, and no specific requirements about his
work…isn’t the monthly salary for washing dishes
at McDonald’s over a thousand USD? This can still
allow him to buy a car and house. If this isn’t possible,
I will just find a divorced man and be willing to be a stepmother.
Besides,
Western children have a strong sense of independence, at
least they will not let me always clean up after them and
cater to their every whim, right?
If even
this is not possible, Japanese or Korean men I would also
consider, I would even consider marrying a Korean or Japanese.
At worst, they will not cook for me. No matter what, I just
want to leave the country and go to the West, if not for
freedom then for money.
I admit
I am very worldly, but I don’t consider my thinking
to be wrong. I am not hurting other people, I just want
to live a better life, whether it is materially or culturally.
I watched an American show “Desperate Housewives.”
That quiet village, clean streets, green lawns, and elegant,
polite neighbours, and I knew, that is the kind of life
I want. (END)
Readers
comments (excerpts)
ZQ
This sentiment (and fallacy) is become more and more common…
within the subconscious of the Chinese lady sits a dream
of western sex and riches… which often results in
disappointment and divorce. Wake up and live…
from a western man.
Ms_Chief
If she is so great, then perhaps she should get to the Western
world on her own merits rather than whoreing herself to
some sad horny old yellow-fevered-up loser who happens to
have opened a door for her. This girl is such a snob and
should show more respect towards her own culture and race.
It’s actually quite sad that she truly believes all
Westerners live like the Desperate Housewives. It’s
like Westerners believing that all Chinese are scholarly,
live in giant houses with courtyards, all elaborately dressed,
can fly and can kick arse.
How can someone supposed to be intelligent be so deluded?
Some basic education should have taught her that although
wages in Western countries are higher on paper, the cost
of living is also proportionally higher. The average McDonald’s
worker won’t be able to get a mortgage for a house
with a big lounge, bathtub for two plus a car on their wages...
..One of the things I hate most about the Chinese today,
which they seem to have caught from the West, is the rampant
consumerism of which she seems to have been caught by, hook
line & sinker.
She is the ice salesman’s eskimo. It’s sad that
people waste so much time and effort, and make themselves
miserable by wanting so much useless sh!t.
Rick
in China
She’s a university student. She doesn’t know
who she herself is yet - let alone what’s important
in life - let alone how used up and loose she’ll be
by the time her materialism-based search for “marrying
an American” is in full swing:)
Then she’ll reconsider, and realise that men are men
- everywhere - and she’ll have to change her attitude
significantly before finding a man of any race who is of
any quality and finds her interesting.
Anonymerican
My first reaction is…what an idiot. She disses her
own people due to a fantasy that a Western man can provide
her dream. What is her value? She wants to sit in her parlor
like living room and wile away the day chatting with friends?
She has just been labelled as the atypical negative stereotype
of a Chinese gold-digging girl.
Her education seems to be a joke. No morals, no humility,
no IQ. Maybe she can catch some English teachers fancy at
a KTV lounge…
a western man
SniperWZ
Thinly veiled social critique, but it does have some very
valid points about contemporary life in China; what she
dislikes about Chinese men seems to be centered on their
materialism and me-only selfishness/lack of social etiquette,
yet she is guilty of materialism herself.
This toadying attitude toward the West was probably more
prevalent in the 1990’s, but today, I think the myth
and illusion has largely worn off…
Ann
Everyone must have dreams, that’s the difference between
the Mao period and China of today. People who have dreams
and hopes are happier. She sounds like a young woman feeling
lost as she faces some life changing decisions upon her
graduation.
That is called life’s stages, from total dependence,
to self-reliance and expressions, to marriage and responsibilities
with ones’ own familiy, to old age. So, good for her
for asking herself some questions - what does she want and
where does she go from here.
A glass house. What she wrote is a common secret desire
for many Chinese. She just articulated them for you.
RnM
I admire the fact she’s saying what many people won’t
say about materialism in life. It’s a brutally honest
reflection on society, nevertheless I think she needs to
adopt a more pragmatic attitude if she’s going to
find a man.
Veer
Left
Very heartfelt lamentation from this young female. Unfortunately,
that if it is heartfelt and not a hoax created to stir up
a backlash against intercultural relationships… It
is also very sad!
All I see, as a westerner (albeit a dark one…haa)
is a very easy target. Show a bit of cash… some wild
‘new’ ideas, and bam! Sleep with her.
Newsflash to this girl. Western guys aren’t stupid
either. They see your weakness and will exploit it to the
same degree that you would exploit them for their greencard,
social constructs etc.
I am totally disgusted and amazed by the amount of open
racism and latent self-loathing that permeates her every
sentence.
Freud would have a field day with this bitch.
Hawaiian-chinese
What’s up with Chinese girls and the western addiction,
hell myself have a china addiction, came from shanghai…
now gotten bored with the states and wants to go back to
the mother land. But girls with this type of mentality is
just too damn common in Shanghai, married off to a westerner
get out of the country earn a US or any other western citizenship;
divorce. then find another rich man too live off of. Sad
… just Sad.
Eric
Wong
I am a Singaporean of Chinese descent who have travelled
to the West as well as to China and other parts of Asia.
I speak both Chinese (Mandarin and Cantonese, and some Fujianese)
as well as English.
I think the writer’s view and conception of the West
is totally flawed. If the folks in the movie business in
China were to shoot their scenes in the hundreds and hundreds
of scenic spots in China, it will project China as a clean
and green place, just like those scenes she saw on American
movies.
Her misguided thinking is a result of her not having been
to the West, and seen what Hollywood or even the Hong Kong
movie directors will not show. (Go to Hong Kong and see
for yourself that it is not what you see in Hong Kong dramas…ditto
for USA)
It is also not true that Western men are more cultivated
or independent. They also visit prostitutes and many of
them who come to China to work are doing precisely that..but
they also visit prostitutes in their own countries, eh?
It is really sad to see that there are many more Chinese
girls who think like the writer, and who throw themselves
into these men. After a few years, these men leave for home
(and by the way, many of them have wives and children back
home) and the poor Chinese girls are simply left behind.
I have myself met many good Chinese men. It may be true
their difficult past have brought forward some undesirable
attributes, but these will take time to change.
Incidentally, being conversant in both languages (and culture),
my opinion is that the Chinese language is more beautiful,
and it is sad to see that the writer, coming from a good
Chinese university, cannot appreciate what a rich culture
China has, choosing instead to worship almost everything
western.
Josh
I agree with the view that this girl is somewhat naive about
Western guys (and I am one). And she does seem very shallow.
She does raise two valid points.
One, her reference to not being able to sunbathe without
a bunch of dung farmers staring is true.- I’ve accepted
that China is not Italy or Brazil, but nevertheless I look
forward to the day when Chinese popular society becomes
better at just letting other enjoy themselves.
She’s right - ordinary life in China is rarely pleasant
in the private, self-indulgent way (without a lot of money)
that one finds in the West.
Second, yes, Western guys can be just as bad as other guys,
but Chinese guys, for the most part need to get a clue.
I’ve lived in China for 3 years, and I hate to say
it, but Chinese guys need a lot of work. I blame an adolescence
that’s 100% studying - no sports, no work, etc. They
seem almost entirely to be either extremely socially awkward
around women or excessively chauvinistic and ignorant.
I’m sorry, but there’s no other way to put it.
The nice ones are awkward and the rest are just - well,
if you’ve lived there, you know.
(Nevermind the rich “little emperors” who are
the worst - it’s ridiculous being macho and assertive
when you’re 5'4? and have arms the size of a gear
shift. Sweet and nice, if you’re that guy, is your
only bet. Leave the swaggering machismo to African and Latino
guys) I have hope that this will change one day.
Ann
Whoa, the vitriol on this young lady. I have lived long
enough to understand life stages and changing perspectives.
She is dreamy being 22.
Some of her complaints about China are valid but her idealistic
West is not. She has the courage to reveal herself completely,
her dreams, her fears and her uncertainty, being 22. Don’t
we all go through our youths feeling lost at one point or
another?
Yes, the grass is always greener on the other side. But,
pollution and unhygenic conditons in China is head spinning
and stomach turning. Who would want to live in such environment?
The lack of civility in public in China makes life so much
harder than it already is. Why can’t Chinese stop
spitting, public defecating and urinating, trashing public
places, shoving and pushing, loudness in speech. Chinese
men can learn to be more intuned to women’s desires:
improve your grooming and wear clean clothes. (Opening doors
and pulling out chairs for women is not part of Chinese
etiquette for men, don’t try because the men would
end up looking awkward.) Find an interesting conversation
on movie, books, art, music to share. Show your confidence
and have a sense of humour. But, don’t brag about
your achievement or your money.
I am writing as a Chinese American married to a White man
for 20 odd years. We find our differences a challenge as
well as enriching. It takes a lot of patience and empathy
to overcome misunderstandings. We live a modest but rich
life in America. Money is utility for basic needs. Happiness
is not about how much we have, but how much we discover.
Chris
I recognise this type of girl from my university classes.
Somebody above talked about Chinese boys needing to have
more of a life during their teenage years - I agre 100%
with that. But this girl also needed to have more of a life
during her teenage years.
She is very idealistic, which is a great thing, but she
is going to end up sorely disappointed when she fails to
meet one of the 5% of guys who actually meets her ideal.
The Chinese education system has a lot of blame to take
for this, for not helping Chinese kids think critically
and and a self-aware fashion.
Unatachedinshanghai
This poor girl, lost about life elsewhere. But do we not
all have the same trouble. I read here and elsewhere constantly
about not lowering one’s self or poor people. Writing
your true feelings, those kept hidden inside in a nameless
blog is harmless at best.
Why so much uproar because most of it is true. I am from
Australia, live in Shanghai, work in Shanghai and play here.
I hate nothing more than standing fifth in a line to suddenly
have a dozen if not 50 bloody people push their way in front,
but not just men girls also, more likely.
But that's China and you take the good with the bad. I find
this girls comments amazing where can I meet nice well educated
Chinese girls?
I only ever come apon girls looking for their next job or
someone out to make a quick buck, all get turned away. I
was working here on off met a girl and came to China looking
to marry my love of several years, but one visit to the
mother and it was all over, not Chinese not good enough.
We all have a rating and a list of requirements, just most
of us are tactfull about how we order from the menu. Give
the girl a break.
Josh
This might give some balance to a part of the debate. http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=505720
Harvard Med School research indicating that Western men
are more obsessed with muscular images than Taiwanese men.
“American, Austrian, and French men thought women
would prefer men who were 20 to 30 pounds more muscular
than average. Taiwanese men described an ideal man who was
only 10 pounds more muscular than average.”
“If you think back to the Olympics, Greek or Roman
sculptures, or about Norse gods, Western culture has traditionally
associated muscularity with masculinity,” said Yang.
“In China, Confucius — when he wrote about the
ideal gentleman — placed more value on literary ability
and cultural attainment.”
Leads to body image issues and steroid abuse, problems which
don’t exist much outside the West. Just food for thought.
freshginger
I am a Chinese girl who lives in the US since I was 17…
Now I am 26. I feel so sad to read this post. Admittedly,
there are things in her message that are true, like guys
spitting in public. When I see those things, I feel disgusted,
and I want to leave asap. And often, I wonder, how I can
enjoy my life in China if one day I do go back there….and
can I find a husband in China?
China is my country… and when I see things I don’t
like in my own country… my first instinct is ..how
do we improve the situation.
I have dated American, European and Chinese. They are all
good guys with differences… However, I’d like
to think that these differences are not country specific…they
are simply different human beings..
She presented herself as an ignorant girl in this post.
I don’t blame her….She is part of the China
phenomenon, and she is brave enough to tell the truth..
Every society has it’s own problems, as Chinese, we
don’t have to like the problems but we should love
our country and its people.
SanityWhat
LOL… Yeah. This is typical Chinese thinking…The
west if paved in gold…
I hope the US embassy will read this and be moved and let
her emigrate to the States… I can then finally find
myself a hot wife, for cheap. She can marry a Mexican dishwasher.
Ann
This blog is mostly from guys who get their fix from attacking
a dreamy young woman to boost their own self-esteem, calling
her the worst degrading names, the equivalent of which I
would not considering using on men). While her idealistic
West is not the complete picture of Western society, it
is at least more than half true. I supoose Chinese guys
can never tolerate a liberated woman. This is nothing new
in Chinese society, is it?
It is no wonder more educated Chinese women prefer to stay
unmarried. At the rates are going in China where boys are
favoured over girls, many of the men will find themselves
without wifes. May be they will to change their tune and
their attitude.
I am writing as a disgusted, liberated Chinese woman living
in the West.
Kai
To me, she sounded very “imploring” and “dreamy,”
amongst other things, including “arrogant.”
The “I’m so much better than this and I deserve
so much better than the rest of you” comes from the
parts where she rhetorically asks if they would want her
to lower herself to riding the bus or participating in a
career fair.
We can call her “naive” if that’s an euphemism
for “ignorant.” For someone who is in Jiaotong
University, veritably one of China’s better higher
institutions of learning veritably populated by some of
China’s brightest and someone who is adept enough
at lurking on the internet, there’s very little excuse
for her to not have SOME inkling of the West not being so
rosy for her to at least have qualified or balanced her
essay of “the West is perfect.”
My point here is that there is a point where one’s
stupidity DESERVES contempt and ridicule. She crossed that
line.
Bopomofo
This lady knows what she likes. But what she likes may not
necessarily be true. Her perceptions are her own not necessarily
that of reality.
She’s observant in that a lot of Chinese men (not
all) are rather less cultured in the finer arts of manner
and etiquette.
Now mind you it’s a generational issue rather than
the country as a whole. Most of the children from parents
of the Cultural Revolution have been brought up in a society
void of social norms and expectations.
A society that is void of rules of etiquette, proper public
manners and other forms of behavior that seem (on the surface)
to be very utopian to the average Chinese but ubiquitous
in western society.
In the West, society reinforces chivalry and other values
that respect the fairer sex. We can talk ad nauseam about
the differences but she is very condescending in reference
to all Chinese men when she clearly is limited to her microcosm
of University life and social circles.
There are clearly elegant Chinese men who are well-mannered,
chivalrous, thoughtful, independent, respectful, educated,
humorous, creative, generous and so on. However usually
they tend to be older men. Older men who are worldly, who
are cultured, who have travelled and who have been to the
West and know differently.
This woman is clearly misguided and prejudiced against her
fellow Chinese man. She aspires to things all people want
and, that is — to live a full and happy life. She
just can’t seem to find it in Shanghai. She shouldn’t
be scolded about her opinion. Pity might be a better choice.
Ann
Firstly, I have no intention of making this young woman
a poster child of woman’s lib. But Chinese society
is still very much mired in the old tradtion of favoring
boys, thus men.
When women find themselves always at a disadvantage, they
will either subcome to the system by taking on the role
of the passive and submissive female plus a new social expectation
of being a sex toy for men; or they can stand up on their
own two feet with lesser expectation in material wants but
greater self-pride and satisfaction. Additionally, because
China has been poor for so long and with the present dynamic
economic development and growth of consumerism in China,
this sequence of social change makes for a very difficult
choice for men and women in China.
Should one be straight and honest or to get rich quick by
hook or by crook? This young woman wishes for a quick easy
glamorous life, while men wish for a get rich quick scheme.
So, what’s the difference?
Is it a fair game to hurl such names on a young woman who
simply expressed her desire for escape in the form of pointing
out the negative social conditions in China?
Fuller
We all come from monkeys! Excuse me while I go eat my banana.
yining
I live abroad and I know at least one girl like who thought
like that. Her goal was to marry a foreigner and she succeeded,
but now they are divorced and she’s a single mom.
Western men don’t expect to have to support women
any more.
I mean, seriously, this a society where splitting the bill
for everything from restaurant meals to mortages to groceries
is common. She’s deluded if she thinks a western man
is her ticket to an easy life.
Panshaw
The living conditions are pretty good in the US. As far
as the men in China are concerned, they seem to always relies
on there parents for everything. I think that kind of lifestyle
can turn off a lot of women. Maybe she SHOULD find a western
boyfriend.
TaiIn
if this article is even true….then she’s in
for a rude awaking.
Western boys are ALL excellent…. Western countries
have better living conditions. Sure… am sure her Mcdonald’s
worker boyfriend will make sure all those headlines are
true.
Man, where is she getting all these bunch of crock?
Raye
Apparently it seems she has never lived in a western country
before. All her opinions were based off of what she has
seen from the media. Well, in every country; there are both
good and bad men.
In America, most men you meet are as bad as the ones in
Asia. They may be a bit more tolerant, but still do the
same things. The average American man would definitely not
fit in her ideas of how an American man would be like. Not
all of them have manners, not all are respectful to others,
and not all act like the ways you would see from the media.
Also, in most American marriages, couples separate their
wealth from one another. When they go out to dinner, most
of the time, they pay separately. Even though American people
make a lot of money, and when that sum is converted to RMB,
it seems a lot. Well, they aren’t as rich as they
seem to be.
Over half the American population do not live luxurious
lives in big, fancy, comfortable houses.
The children in America would be just as bad as the children
born in Asia. They have more things they don’t need
to work for. American children are more spoiled, more demanding,
and can be just as bad as kids of any other country there
is.
I have met an Asian women lucky enough to marry a decent
American man. Her life is pretty good. Her home is in a
nice neighborhood. Her closet is filled with designer brands.
She can go shopping every weekend. But, she works for her
own money that she sends home to her parents in China.
And there aren’t enough of those men to go around.
It seems that nowadays, the population of decent men and/or
women are dramatically decreasing.
Good luck on a fairy tale life.
Tuttle
“I am an excellent girl in every aspect.”
No way, ’cause you think no end of yourself. A cultivated
women is not so overweening. You are yourself a part of
what you criticise.
betrue
I don’t even want to read the whole article. She is
so shallow, so lost...
Being a chinese woman who married to a foreigner for five
years, my advice is - as a Chinese girl, you probably need
to be even more stronger and indepent to marry to westerner.
In lot way, chinese man are much more caring and take more
financial responsiblities of the family. However, I do enjoy
the my relationship, my husband respect who I am and my
independence.
Ron
Ah, she is so disillusioned with all these tvs and movies.
I live in Australia, its not like that at all. We don't
always have clean street etc. It all depends on where you
live. In terms of income, I mean seriously, getting US$1,000
will not allow that poor bloke a means to live the way you
want.
No point telling you all these, you will not believe me
anyway. DO what you think is right, perhaps one day you
will realise its not about the materials you got around
you, its about how that one person that you love is treating
you, how he tries to make your life better etc.
Singapore
Girl
Funny. I am a Singapore girl and I don’t have strong
opinion about Singapore men although I know a lot of Chinese
girls like to come to Singapore for our men.
Like you I think Western men are generous and thoughtful.
Smickno
It is true that Singaporean men prefer Chinese girls to
Singaporean girls. Based on what I’ve been told, Singaporean
women expect men to carry their handbags, open doors for
them and the like, while expecting equality, whatever that
means.
It is an absolute contradiction. Singaporean women want
to prove that they are independent, strong, and clever (too
clever by half, though) while expecting the men to treat
them like the weaker sex, when it is to their benefit.
Interestingly, Singaporean girls treat American/European
man like their ancestors, almost as if they are with God.
Singaporean men also prefer Chinese girls because they are
more family-oriented. They are much more able to bring warmth
and love to the family, unlike the chauvinistic Singaporean
women who are selfish, self-centred and egoistic.
It is no wonder that the international community working
and residing in China are attracted to the Chinese women,
and not to the large number of Singaporean women there for
the picking. Sad sad. They aren’t desirable both at
home and abroad. No wonder, for half a dime, they offer
themselves to the ‘western men’ lah.
Now, I have seen not a few marriages between American/European
men and Singaporean women ending up in divorce in the most
acrimonious way.
So, like that fictitious Chinese girl, I’d say to
Singaporean women who are dreaming, to dream on. Your saying
that ‘western men are generous and thoughtful’
betrays your ignorance about the west, not far off that
of the fictitious Chinese girl here.
Melissa
(westerner)
This is a ridiculous post. She says she wants “love,”
yet all her stipulations on love involve materialistic things.
Sorry, it’s the same story everywhere… you’d
just be jumping into another country’s frying pan.
Money corrupts individuals just the same as anywhere else.
Western men with money visit prostitutes, go drink, go gambling,
treat women like crap, just like the rest of them. My advice:
LOOK FOR LOVE, NOT MONEY. Money is temporary, and good men
with money know this. They’re not looking to invest
in a liquidated asset (a woman who wont love them if the
money is gone). They’re looking for someone who will
stay no matter what (OR, they’re looking for arm candy
which will turn into the flavor of the week).
Western men are more generous than others maybe, because
our culture values generosity. BUT, they are the same in
marriage as everyone else. You aren’t going to get
anything different.
Emma
Hey, girl:
I rang the University of Jiaotong, they told me they don’t
have any formal or even unformal soccer/football cheer team.
So… I wonder if you are real cheer leader of that
uni.
Sorry, I am from a magazine, we want to get an interview
with you, so I call the university. If ok, would you pls
leave me a message or send me an email:emmachi@asia-city.com.cn
Crystal
I’m a Canadian citizen currently attending university
on the West Coast. I immigrated nine years ago.
This girl has a very idealised image of Western life. What
she has seen and heard in movies and commercials represent
less than one fraction of North American culture.
JLIN
What a shame to the chinese ethnicity. She may go to Jiaotong
University but her ways if thinking is nothing better than
SH-T.
I live in America and there are tons of useless and stupid
here as much as there are in China. Men everywhere are the
same. You can only find the perfect one if you take the
effort to find your match.
John
The substance of this girl’s post was not meant to
disparage the physical aspects of life in China. She was
lamenting on the mental aspects, or the approach towards
life, in China, where for example, people spit without thinking
twice. It’s not the physical aspect of spitting, but
the attitude towards spitting, and she loathes this attitude
of “I don’t care if the streets are clean, I’m
going to spit anyways because who cares?” This attitude
is pervasive in chinese people. Yes, very selfish of them,
but that’s the way they are.
My point is that rather than her wasting time chasing dreams
of “the grass is greener on the other side,”
this girl should be realistic and understand that she has
a hot body, meaning she owns a potentially productive asset
that can generate very high income in the short-run. She
should put this asset to use. Her body will not be hot forever.
Of course, the trick is to learn to save her money when
the cash comes rolling in.
http://www.chinasmack.com/stories/china-does-not-have-any-men-suitable-for-me/