Interview
Sylvia Lim
The Workers' Party leader talks about the general election
for first time. Sharon Lim. I-S Magazine
Jun 27, 2006
The
fever of the elections has passed, the dust has settled.
Sylvia Lim, Chairman of Worker’s Party, leads the
highest-scoring opposition team, winning 43.9 percent of
votes at Aljunied GRC.
Newly
appointed as Non-Constituency Member of Parliament (NCMP),
she gives Sharon Lim an insider view....
Stepping
into the interview in a bright pink chinois jacket and a
pair of jeans, Sylvia Lim looks relaxed and unassuming-
nothing like the persona portrayed during the nine-day hustings.
Personable and eloquent, answers easily roll off her tongue
when asked about politics and the work of her party.
But
delve into Sylvia Lim the person, and long pauses and hesitation
fill the air. Realistic and practical, she typifies the
composed party leader with her feet {and ear) firmly on
the ground.
Don't
expect her to be championing women's causes in Parliament.
Her passion lies in the bread and butter issues of the regular
Joe. And bring up the fact that she is the first woman opposition
MP since 1963, she retorts, "So what if I am male or
female. It doesn't make a difference."
From
a supporter who donated bottles of birds' nest drinks for
each Workers' Party candidate, to an anonymous man who sent
Lim constructive feedback on her rally speeches every day
via email, to the hordes that attended the nightly rallies,
these actions surprised, touched and affirmed her cause
in giving Singaporeans another voice in politics.
Q:
Did you feel that you were given justified media
coverage during the elections?
A: I think this round, generally, the English
and Chinese papers did not represent the Workers' Party
in a bad light. And because of this, it affected voters'
perception of us as well. So people started to think, "Hey,
Workers' Party is not crazy." But then, we could have
had more coverage vis a vis PAP, but that's" the way
things are.
Q:
"The way things are." Is that a resigned statement
or ...?
A: It's born out of a sense of realism
and also from having worked with people who have been in
opposition politics longer. They'll tell you "Oh, it's
so much better than the previous elections, don't complain."
So there is a little bit of taking the scraps that fall
from the table, that kind of thing.
Of course we want things to improve, but we can't expect
things to improve in quantum leaps overnight, so we try
to push the boundaries. I find sometimes also that because
people are too resigned to the fact that the status quo
will remain, that there's no inclination for change, and
that's wrong. Because if you've ever tried to push the boundaries,
you will realise that things can happen. If you're there
and you're prepared to take a risk, things will happen.
Q:
What part of campaigning did you find enjoyable? ..
A: I think it was enjoyable to know that
a party of our size - which is nothing compared to the PAP
- can make some waves. So it's always good to know that
you don't have to have a lot of money or a lot of manpower
to make some difference. Even little steps do matter. People
are prepared to come forward to join the party and stand
as candidates against the PAP. These are the pillars on
which bigger things will be founded.
Q: What was the high point for you?
A: I found the Serangoon Stadium rally
quite a high point for me. It was the final rally, first
of all.
Secondly, it was the one and only rally site that we had
where we could see the audience, because the stadium was
very well lit and we could see people's faces. That was
very very uplifting. And we ended off the whole thing with
the pledge - and I think there was some sense of unity of
purpose, some solidarity with the people.
Q:
What was the lowest point?
A: For me personally, I think there were
times when I thought that I didn't do as well as I could.
For example, for the party political broadcast on Tv; the
feedback was that I came across as arrogant, blah, blah,
blah. I didn't intend to be so, but I realised that it's
got a lot to do with media training. Other than that, what
I imagined the campaign to be eventually turned out to be
not as scary as I thought.
Q:
Were you scared?
A: I wasn't scared at all. But initially,
you know, when you think of it in vacuo, you think that
the PAP is going to dig out everything you've done from
the time you were in kindergarten or whatever. I was waiting
for that, but nothing came. In the end, they were just harping
on the J. Gomez thing.
Q:
What is your feeling on the outcome of the James
Gomez incident?
A: I was surprised that the police gave
him a warning. Not because I felt that he had done anything
wrong.
Q:
Was there any point in time when you thought, "Yah,
we actually have a chance of winning."
A: Such thoughts do cross my mind, but
generally I know that we really need to be prepared for
the worst, because if we win or if our margins are poor
or whatever, we still have to face the media and the people.
And we have to be composed at that point, you see. So it's
always important to be prepared for all eventualities.
Q:
Were you pleased that you actually met your 40 percent target?
A: I wouldn't say it was a target, but
we are pleased that the voters showed that they were prepared
to support us. We were not really surprised by the results,
but I think we still hoped that we could have done better
Q:
How did you feel when the Party decided that you would be
the NCMP?
A: I felt a sense of responsibility, that
I have to do it properly. And also not to let down the people
who had voted for us.
Q:
What can we expect from you in Parliament? What kind of
issues will you be championing?
A: The traditional concerns that WP tends
to raise, i.e. to speak up for those who are not doing very
well under the free market economy. So we'll be watching
issues like cost of living, health care costs, retirement
concerns. Ar the same time also, because I'm legally trained,
I will be reviewing the legislation concerning Parliament,
which I've been helping Mr Low to do for the past few years
anyway. So I'll be speaking up on that. And personally,
I guess I will take an interest in some of the law and order
debates. But I must add that I'm not there to canvass my
own causes.
Q:
What is your mantra, speaking generally?
A: Fairness. I think people should be treated
fairly. I think that's the fundamental principle.
Q: Do you think you're misunderstood?
A: No, not really (laughs). I don't think
people's impressions of me have fossilised yet. It's hard
to put this in a neutral way. People have come up to me
after the elections, in public places, and told me things
like "Thank you for what you're doing," "Thank
you for giving us a choice: and "Don't give up."
So for whatever reason, I think that they believe that what
we're doing is actually something for them. Which I think
is really (pause) it! We're not in this for ourselves because,
frankly speaking, the benefits you get are (laughs), you
know, let's not talk about that. There are some sacrifices
made, because we think that it is probably better for Singaporeans
in Singapore if there are elections where people have choices.
And because of that, if the people perceive it, then I think
we've achieved quite a lot.
Q:
That speaks of the party, but what about you?
A: Similarly too, I think, okay, I don't
know about everyone, and I'm sure some people hate me, but
ah ...
Q:
Does that concern you?
A: You can't please everyone, so that's
okay. But I think so long as the average person believes
that I am sincere in what I'm trying to do on the Workers'
Party platform, that is try to advance their interest and
keep the government accountable, so long as people believe
that, I think that would be good enough.
Q:
Do you think people believe this?
A: It may be too early to form a definitive
judgment, but I think, based on the elections feedback and
all that, that people do believe that I'm sincere in what
I'm trying to do. It's something that is a long haul thing,
you know. Of course I'm not saying that I'm going to be
around forever. I think, personally, I would commit my time
and energy if I feel that there's support for the things
we're trying to do and we're making headway. But if I find
that we're not making headway, then what's the point. I
mean, we all have lives to lead, right?
Q:
You're a public figure now. How does that make you feel?
A: I think that's alright. I think I can
still bear with that. But I suppose I have to be more circumspect
in the things I do. So I guess you can expect me to be going
out of Singapore more (hearty laughs). Like just yesterday
I went down to my neighbourhood coffee shop dressed in my
home clothes. I put on sunglasses to try to look as unrecognisable
as possible. I was waiting for my mother, actually, and
along came this group of retirees, and they said "Oh,
we finally get to meet you" or something like that.
It was very, very touching. They were supporters of Workers'
Party. And they told me about the rallies they had attended
and gave me feedback. It's useful to remain in contact and
be approachable. We don't want that to change.
Q:
So who is Sylvia Lim?
A: I'm idealistic, but I'm also a very
practical person. So I would make sactifices for my ideals,
but still try not to break the law in doing that.
Q:
Is being Chairman of WP and lecturer at Temasek Polytechnic
your entire life? Or is there more to it?
A: No, no, it isn't. I would say it takes
up quite a lot of my time. I still have time left over,
which I save for a few things like my family, close friends
and mysel£ And I will always leave that pocket there,
because I think that's very important for my sanity.
I-S Magazine