Preston
The public says...
ST praised for letting public know it’s not recognised.
It’s part of a bigger concern with issue of dubious
degrees in a global world. Here are views.
Sep 10, 2008
Channel New Asia forum
By singaporeoptionstraders
The latest ST article (6th September 2008) on the Preston
University
Degree Mill issue is an interesting one.
The
response from Dr Juergen Rudolph, the Managing Director
of Centre of Professional Studies (CPS)
is pathetic. By
the way, is "Dr" Juergen’s qualification
from Preston University as well?
The Centre of Professional Studies Pte Ltd is owned by
ERC Holdings.
Perhaps
the Group CEO, Andy Ong could comment how could a “reputable” organisation
such as ERC which boast Advisory Board members such as
Kenny
Yap and Douglas
Foo, could represent Preston University which has been
exposed by ST as a degree mill.
Dr Juergen saying that CPS no longer represents Preston
University is nonsense.
Check
out Preston University's latest catalog and you will
find "Asian Centre of Professional Excellence" (now
known as ERC Institute) being listed along with the graduation
photograph.
Perhaps ST should feature a story on CPS and ERC and their
role on misleading the public over the years in recruiting
the MBA and PhD/DBA students.
MOE (Ministry of Education) should investigate this matter
and the relevant authority should revoke ACPE/ERC SQC for
PEO status.
Let's hear from MOE and ST Editor.
This appeared in the ST Forum.
In the States: Accredited courses
I APPLAUD the recent series of articles by Ms Sandra Davie
on diploma mills. Students and parents considering tertiary
study in any country should apply only to accredited institutions
to ensure the degree earned is valid and legitimate worldwide.
In the United States, nearly all colleges and universities
participate in a voluntary process of accreditation to
establish their status. Accreditation, a process of peer
review, is usually seen as the key to determining whether
a degree programme meets generally recognised academic,
fiscal and structural standards.
Institutional accreditation involves the evaluation of
the institution as a whole to determine its educational
effectiveness. The institution must have educational objectives
appropriate to that institution; resources appropriate
to achieve its objectives; and proof that it is achieving
and will continue to achieve its goals. Once accredited,
institutions are re-examined every 10 years.
There are two simple ways to check accreditation of institutions
in the US. The database maintained by the Council for Higher
Education Accreditation has information about quality assurance
and accreditation organisations from 48 countries, including
the US, and contact information for each organisation.
Inquiries may also be directed to the EducationUSA advising
office at the US Education Information Centre in Singapore
Karen Kaylor (Ms)
Director, US Education Information Centre
EducationUSA Singapore
By singaporeoptionstraders
I was informed recently that CPS-ERC managed to have NMP
(Nominated MP) Claire Chiang and MP Ahmad Magad as Guest-of-Honours
for the various intake Graduation Ceremonies for Preston
University over the years.
On Page 29 of the Preston University 2008 Catalog available
from their website you could find Preston University Graduates
from Asian Centre of Professional Excellence (now known
as ERC Institute).
MOE should investigate CPS and ERC Institute (who is the
shareholder of CPS along with Mr Andy Ong, the Group CEO
of ERC Holdings). This could be found in the ACRA/ROC Instant
Report.
"Dr" Juergen
Rudolph, Mr Andy Ong, and the 2 previous Directors, Mr
Richard Toh and
Toh Puay Yong (of
PS Consulting and Certified Consultant Academy) should
be held responsible for this Preston University fiasco
as they had brought the programme into Singapore and benefited
commercially over the past nearly 10 years that program
was offered in Singapore.
Perhaps
Ms Claire Chiang and Mr Ahmad Magad could explain how
could they associate themselves with
a "degree
supplier" such as CPS and ERC?
Perhaps Ms Sandra Davie and Mr Han Fook Kwang of Straits
Times could look into this expeditiously as this a matter
of public interest.
sessam
With the opening of Singapore to so many "prequalified" potential
citizens and their expertise the matter is of fundamental
importance.
My brother is a Medical consultant in one of our public
hospitals and I was horrified to learn from him even in
the not too distant past the MOH was caught off balance
by doctors who were from non accreditated medical schools.
But the scale of this "Preston University" graduates
is really of concern and even many of my American colleagues
were surprised and thought I was referring to Princeton
U.
I did some research after the furore in this forum on Preston
U - apparently the level of recognition of university degree
in US varies from the Ivy-league class to the unmentionable.
This Preston U is registered in Alabama where in the view
of my well qualified US colleague has "lax" criteria
of registration.
ZhenYuBeng
Our MPs could also have been misled. Don't think they knowingly
support something fishy. I also thought originally that
Preston U was like Princeton U until CNA forum pointed
out otherwise.
black_swan
Notice the "chancellor" admits that it is not
accredited by the US authorities - which means the diplomas
are useless
excerpts:
- In 2001, Preston University was found to be falsely claiming
that it employed faculty, two of whom had never heard of
the school.[4] Since then, all Preston faculty are listed
prominently on the school's web site and in its online
catalog:
- On March 15 2007, the The Chronicle of Higher Education
reported, "In response to a crackdown on diploma mills
in Wyoming, an entity known as “Preston University” is
moving part of its operations to Alabama, where laws are
laxer.
Ramzi
My question to the chancellor of Preston Uni is: How would
anyone have assurance of his high standards when there
are no accreditations at all?
And why won't they want to be accredited if Preston Uni
has high standards? If accreditation is no good, why would
any university want to be accredited?
kud0s
I got curious after reading the series of articles on Preston
University and also logged on to its website to see for
myself. It does indeed look highly questionable.
Just click on the "Admissions" link and expect
to be told how to get admitted? Sure, but the top paragraph
on the page tells you how much you need to pay to get "certification
documents" from the university.
Better still, check out the application form - 2 pages
in all, can be completed in 5 minutes. With so little information
asked from applicants, I wonder how the school screen applicants
and make decisions about acceptance/rejection, unless,
of course, they accept everybody who has a valid credit
card account.
Forget about paying US8,000 for their degree. I will use
the money to buy me a country club membership and meet
interesting business contacts there.
uneedservice
Extracted from the Straits Times report "... But worryingly,
an increasingly long list of private school lecturers and
financial consultants openly cite their bought doctorates
and masters’ degrees, in their curriculum vitae and
client pitches.
A typical example is Be-Mad, a company at Scotts Road,
that trains human resource professionals.
Its chief executive officer ‘Dr’ David Ong
Kah Seng and two of his associates, ‘Dr’ Ng
Sin Keh and Mr Yeo Thiang Swee, have degrees from Rochville
University, Preston University and Atlantic International
University, which are all commonly referred to as diploma
mills in the United States.
On its website, Be-Mad consultancy boasts that its long
list of clients includes ministries, banks and educational
institutions..."
Issues for concern:
It seems everyone starts to claim theirs is a GENUINE degree.
So who do we verify with in Singapore? MOE? MOM?
How can a company HR verify? Is there an efficient system
to do so?
I am sure this is not a new happening in Singapore but
such social phenomenon is definitely not healthy. On one
hand, we are building our reputation to be an educational
hub, yet we are ignorant or we choose to be ignorant with
educational quality.
Why did this happen? Would it have taken place if we have
stringent checks and validation? A person who risks to
use a "not so recognised" degree to pass off
knows that most companies verify only the PHYSICAL paper
only.
Show me the paper out from the scroll and OK, you are employed
or engaged by the company. In fact, the risk level is so
low.
The mentality is "So what if I am exposed by this
company... worst is get sacked... and I can always try
my luck elsewhere..." Hence, the cycle repeats. Is
there a system to track or even one to deter people to
purchase such instant success?
Can we imagine the hardworking population who part with
tens of thousands to go through the rigours of strict academic
assessment.. is this a fair system?
Are we indirectly encouraging a mindset "Why are we
spending so much money, time n effort to study since buying
one degree can give you almost instant success"
It is dreadful to imagine the day when everyone is a "Dr" but
who is the real "Dr"..
samtap
Upon reading the article, I was pretty intrigued as I already
know from background knowledge of US, studying there is
pretty complicated.
Even accredited universities may not be recognized. Only
in the States there exist accreditation bodies to accredit
the accreditation bodies!
I think mills and unaccredited universities are not the
same. Mills really are the ones that you buy without any
coursework etc. Like the dog.
Basically, I get real irritated by our newspapers giving
us their point of view - think they should not take readers
as *censored*. We want FACTS.
By the way, from the total number of universities in the
US , I think less than a quarter of them are accredited.
Are the rest of 75% bogus universities or degree mills?
Wow...
I believe even SMU in Singapore is not AACSB accredited!
Anyway, from my experience in the States - not everything
is as clear cut as it is here in Singapore!!
Singapore's Ministry of Education website of registered
universities - Preston is listed there. You can check other
schools for reference if you are doing any programs...
I checked other schools like Rochville and the doggy one,
all not approved by MOE.
PL
Now we get to see many kinds and types of foreign and local
talents in Singapore..
Talent with high pay-salary jobs thru fake degrees is also
another kind of talent Singapore will be getting.
Very soon, imagine a dish-cleaning ah-pek and ah-ma with
Preston U degree in their hands ...for interview!
cooldsai
I have checked in MOE website and Preston is a registered.
What is the approval requirement of MOE? Do they really
check all the overseas education providers?
Anyway, I am a graduate from Preston MBA from very early
intake when Centre of Professional Studies brought Preston
here.
To me, I was very technical person and like to enhance
my knowledge in business management before I embarked into
entrepreneurship. Then I found Preston which provides very
flexible learning scheme.
I was very busy and always think of an MBA or BBA which
provides "good understanding of business application
and knowledge areas". For me, MBA is not to climb
the corporate ladder but to embark my dream to run my own
business..
So.. Preston was chosen. True enough, I got opportunity
to learn from some of our prominent course facilitators
such as Mr Sattar Bawany (Now I believe Dr. Bawany may
be from Preston too...), Dr. K C Chan, Mr Wong Soon Heng
and many other industrial practitioners, local univerties
lecturers and leaders.
Whether Preston is accredited or not but surely the facilitators
had done their very best and demonstrated their professionalism,
shared their knowledge areas.
I am now running my own company which incorpated in 2003
after I graduated from Preston. Day by day, I am applying
what I have learnt and truly beneficial.
What I like to say here is "what is your objectives
to get MBA, PHD....?"
Is it for showcasing and thought it adds benefit to your
profile such as title Dr......?
I am here to say Preston is not a degree-mill..
binafikir
It is laughable when some Preston grads tried to say that
it is registered with the MOE like it is a badge of quality.
Preston is listed in the MOE as Preston Uni, PAKISTAN!!
And they pretend it is a US institution!
Quote from MOE website:
Translation: They just register - they do not check the
QUALITY at all!!
It is important to note that the programme originates from
the educational institution concerned which is responsible
for its every aspect, including matters relating to curriculum,
course structure, admission criteria, academic rigours,
programme quality, teaching standard and assessments/examinations.
Local organisations who wish to indicate the registration
status of the EDPs with MOE should only use the term “Registered
with the Ministry of Education” and not otherwise.
Registration of EDPs is not tantamount to accreditation
or recognition by MOE.
binafikir
Horrors!! The list of external degree programs on the MOE
website may contain TOTALLY FRAUDULENT providers.
khirsah
to binafikir:
You are right in that they MAY contain fraudulent degrees.
I think many people have confused themselves on the list
of REGISTERED private schools and programs they offered.
They are registered to operate here but doesn't mean they
high accredited, recognised or runs high quality programmes.
Also, note that certain programmes offered by certain Uni
may be accredited by it's host country... provided the
programme is run in that Uni itself and not through overseas
distant learning.
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